Hey All - Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I'm fairly new to ERP LN - but I had been working in Baan IVc4 for a number of years - so alot of that knowledge is applicable in ERP LN.

1st off - in my experience in Baan IVc4 I never really used the "Customization Administration" sessions (Project/Project Part/Customization Part). I find this is a requirement in ERP LN - to a certain point at least.


I've created a simple report session - nothing fancy - real simple - however - when I attempt to use ttiex4110m000:Components by Patch Code and add the components - I run into problems with the Session and Form components.

I can insert the Script/Source & Script/Object & Report(source & object) - but when attempting to add the Form and/or Session components - I get a "Component not found" message. When I zoom to the Sessions(ttadv2500m000) or Forms(ttadv3500m000) sessions from ttiex4110m000 I don't find the components I'm seeking.

I know they exist in the Package VRC I'm currently set to - because I can find the other components - but not the Session or Forms.....

I'm perplexed at this - it's not how Baan IVc4 behaved.....
Am I missing something?

If anyone can give me a good explanation of the "Customization Administration" sessions and just what purpose they're serving for me - I'd appreciate it.

1st off - in my experience in Baan IVc4 I never really used the "Customization Administration" sessions (Project/Project Part/Customization Part). I find this is a requirement in ERP LN - to a certain point at least.
If anyone can give me a good explanation of the "Customization Administration" sessions and just what purpose they're serving for me - I'd appreciate it.
In LN, it is advised to use the PMC Distributor & Recipient functionality to build a logical PMC solutions with dependencies, undo-install process etc.
You can always use the Import/Export Data Dictionary (ttiex1280m000, ttiex1285m000), which don't give the enhanced pmc style options. Refer to the latest PMC pdf from the documentation portal.
I can insert the Script/Source & Script/Object & Report(source & object) - but when attempting to add the Form and/or Session components - I get a "Component not found" message. When I zoom to the Sessions(ttadv2500m000) or Forms(ttadv3500m000) sessions from ttiex4110m000 I don't find the components I'm seeking.

In LN, you have to use the Integrated Sessions as the component type than just session or form.
I know they exist in the Package VRC I'm currently set to - because I can find the other components - but not the Session or Forms.....
Also check in the Patch codes session (ttiex4500m000) for the export VRC. The export/staging VRC might not always be the same as development VRC.

NPRao -
Thanks for the tip about the "integrated sessions" when using the ttiex4110m000 session - I don't know why I didn't think of that. When I use that as the component type - the patch file that's created contains both the Session and the Form.

That just what I was looking for.

I'm unable to find anything about "Integrated Sessions" in the "Infor ERP LN 6.1 Programmers Guide" so I'm not exactly sure what an "Integrated Session" is as opposed to any other session... but this does help me generate the needed patch files.

From the webhelp: Integrated Session
The session and the session's form are integrated into one object. The form is a subcomponent of the session.
When you perform an operation (for example: copy, delete, checkin, or checkout) on an integrated session, you also perform the operation on the integrated session's form.
A non-integrated session's form is a separate object.

Hi,

What I do is, instead going in maintain s/w components sessions. I choose to maintain components from that component's session itself. All these sessions has option in specific menu as "customization parts", select this one, enter project, project part, cust part and save. (Create Project, Proj Part, and Cust Part prior to this.). So that as soon as you create a new component say label, mesg, session, library, go to specific menu, select customization part, and maintain things.

Regards,
MilindV

Milind,

We haven't used much of the Customization Administration, its seems more used in the Baan5 versions, in the LN Tools PMC is the go forward way.

Refer to my earlier note:
In LN, it is advised to use the PMC Distributor & Recipient functionality to build a logical PMC solutions with dependencies, undo-install process etc.
You can always use the Import/Export Data Dictionary (ttiex1280m000, ttiex1285m000), which don't give the enhanced pmc style options. Refer to the latest PMC pdf from the documentation portal.
You can also create a component list and use the Export DD tool too.
Using Software Components by Customization Part (ttadv1176m000), you cannot setup the logical dependency of the software components or have a backup option like PMC. So it depends on your sox audit, change/audit management processes etc established at your company.

You can use both... we do, I think that is what Milind was referring to.
During development we use customization admin to keep track of all the components.
Then use PMC to generate the Patch based on Customization Admin (Connect Components to PMC Solution - check Customization Admin).

If you wait to make the patch before gathering and connecting your components, you forget stuff all the time. Need to make the Customization Admin as you go....