patvdv
7th September 2001, 10:15
What is the version release of the Baan environment you are using - as your main environment - or alternatively what version of Baan are you mostly implementing?

Let me know if I missed a version :)

Jan Park
7th September 2001, 11:41
More than one answer here,

We are currently running 4c3 in the UK, Europe & Israel and 4c4 in Scandinavia. However we are currently upgrading and hope to be running 4c4 in all locations by October. Other Bio-Rad sites are running mainly 4c4 but France is currently implementing 5.:)

Ravenscross
7th September 2001, 14:44
There is always one that has to have more than anyone else, isn't there. Always someone not satisfied with what they get....


And I would hate to see her VRC structure ( although I've heard her VPL is very nice! ;) sorry couldn't resist just putting a laugh in here... )

Jan Park
7th September 2001, 15:04
There are more appropriate threads for such comments, do try to at least pretend you can be professional sometimes!

:)

I'f you were not my friend I'd have to kill you!

Ravenscross
7th September 2001, 18:20
Sorry. I just thought it might brighten up the friday. I appologise for my comments greatly. From now on, I shall keep them for the more light hearted forums...

Germanicus
7th September 2001, 22:53
Good question,

most of the time I reproduce cases on B4c5, B50b and B50c
but we still have customers on Triton and B40b but this is the
minority.

Germanicus

Jan Park
12th October 2001, 00:31
As to my previous post...we are indeed now running 4c4 in all sites following our upgrade....quite pleased since I said October earlier and we actually made it :D

pjohns
12th October 2001, 10:03
My Finance guy is still trying to find out where this "You cannot use 4c4 in Israel" came from.

When do you plan to move onto 5/ERP?


PJ

Jan Park
12th October 2001, 11:08
Winnie had to go....there were a few of us in here :)

Not sure when we are going to move to 5 but it will happen sooner or later. Our latest upgrade has taken us to service pack 7 but we are now working on loading sp8 :D

Frank Rogers
8th January 2002, 20:52
There are 59 responses as of today and 47 on the Desktop survey

Could a statistically qualified person "calculate" the confidence factor in these results. ?

A Baan source told me last year that 40 % of sites were still on Triton.

Frank

patvdv
9th January 2002, 10:44
Frank,

That is a good question. If you had asked me that 10 years ago I probably would have been able to answer that question and give you a good confidence interval. Now I would have to brush up on my university Econometrics course before even attempting it! Yet from what I do remember, I would say that the current sample size is too small to run any valuable statistical queries on it.

There is also the aspect of determining your survey/question goals. If we for instance would be looking at the distribution of Baan versions on the level of a customer/site, then picture this hypothetical situation:

Acme Inc. has 290 Baan users. Company management think Baanboard.com is a great site so it asks all of its Baan users to register and vote on the various polls. Let's assume 130 employees do so and deliver their vote. Now - unfortunately - Acme is still running on Triton 2.x so we have 130 people voting for the Triton 2.x option.

Total amount of votes are 220 at the time we want to make a statistical report of it. That would mean that we have 59% of 'customers' using Triton 2.x according to the poll! In reality of course the raw data is massively skewed and needs correction.

I think the significance of the polls on the board don't go any further than the board itself. It's a nice gimmick though :)

cabihler
15th January 2002, 17:46
we have ivc2 in multiple sites and we are about to reimplement our european install with ivc4. we are HEAVILY customized (process chemical industry). has anyone gone from ivc2 to ivc4? ideas & thoughts please......

Jan Park
23rd January 2002, 18:37
Yet another update, we are now running c4 on sp9 :)

Frank Rogers
24th January 2002, 21:10
Jan

Am I right in thinking you went from SP8 to SP9 ?

Are there any "recommended" patches to load after SP9 ?


Frank

Jan Park
24th January 2002, 21:58
Hi Frank,

No, we went from 7 loading 8 & 9 at the same time. As far as recommended patches I'm not sure. I suppose you would just add patches weekly till the next sp release.

Jan

sturla
25th January 2002, 09:53
I don't think this statistics is representative for the Norwegian Baan marked.
It's about 30 companies running Baan in Norway and they use following versions:

Baan 5.0c 1 (1 new implementation running),
Baan IVc4 >20 companies
Baan IVc1-3 3-4 companies
Baan IV a,b 2-3 compaines
Triton I have heard about 1, but I'm not sure

More than 70 % are on 4c4. Less than 4 of them plan to migrate to 5.0 this year.:confused:

Frank Rogers
25th January 2002, 11:10
Jan

Thanks again

Have you had any "showstoppers" having gone to SP9?
or that you found during the testing ?

Frank

NPRao
8th April 2002, 19:19
Hi Pat,

Can you please add BaaN-Reger the latest BaaN release to the list. We are working on that version.

Thanks

patvdv
8th April 2002, 20:45
Baan Reger, is that the official name? Is it BaanERP 5.2?

NPRao
8th April 2002, 21:15
Yes its the BaaN ERP-5.2, which is called as the BaaN Reger. Reger is just a name like the Corelli, Verdi etc for the other BaaN releases.

We just went LIVE 3-1/2 weeks ago.

We are the Alpha/Beta Customer.

lbencic
8th April 2002, 22:11
Well, since this thread got moved up anyway, I'll throw my 2 cents in on statistics and the percentage of Triton people out there. There is still a lot of them out there, and only Baan would know about them. They are the type of people that get a working product and NEVER want to touch it. It works!!! Why upgrade or change?!?!? Maybe they had bad upgrade experiences, or maybe they customized so much it is not cost effective to upgrade. So, those type of people have probably been stable for years, and don't have as many questions or need of consultants. They won't be on these boards as much as those with newer versions, and generally the consultants on these boards will not have them as clients. Always exceptions, of course, we had to upgrade someone from Triton 2.2 :) within the last year.

It is a classic statistical problem, your polling audience is already biased towards later versions.

patvdv
8th April 2002, 22:22
Lisa,

You are right with your observations. And as all statistics, these polls have to be brought back to their proportions!

Socalsm
6th May 2003, 00:03
We're in the midst of upgrading from 5.0b to 5.0c. Just wondering which service pack the 5.0c folks have found to be most stable?

We've installed SP6, but have found some issues. Has anyone gone all the way to SP11 or have most people stopped somewhere between SP6 and SP11?

-Shirley

Old Vens
6th May 2003, 07:57
I guess it will be the the thing of some interest to know the history of migrations from one version to the other(s). Some companies still using baan version from the very beginning of implementation and some tend to upgrate. Maybe it's useful to look at such kind of statistics?

NvanBeest
1st August 2003, 10:08
If only there was a way to make sure only one member from a company voted, and to get all Baan's customers to vote! That is the only way to make these stats worth more than interesting!

In another thread Patrick mentioned that Baan's management has chosen to ignore the BaanBoard. Could somebody try to get SSA's management interested?

OmeLuuk
1st August 2003, 11:28
I think Baan knows these statistics better than anyone. They keep records of all validated software. Still do 2.2 validations too.

A pol on migration paths... would be nice... but how to do this... should be multilevel poll:

Started with version (mandatory) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Then migrated to: (optional) in YEAR:
Current version (mandatory) from YEAR:

I am not sure if this can be done...

patvdv
1st August 2003, 11:36
That would be very difficult. Your poll options must be fixed so that includes YEAR and VERSION. And if you need provide an option for each possible combination then it will be unworkable.

OmeLuuk
1st August 2003, 11:54
I was afraid so... Would have given nice graphs though... Maybe it should be done in freeform text in a separate thread.

Every now and then graphs could be (manually) generated from the data in the thread.

Actually... I wonder how many BaanBoard users could span their companies use of Baan software from their own experience. It is good to do some investigation on that topic if you are not aware when your company started to work with (early) Baan software. Why? Just for the sake of historical awareness.

Polls like these do tend to get outdated though. When a year is added, one can get an idea on the age of current implementations of versions. Do not forget that even BaanIV is not old software, because still active maintained.

Would it be a good idea to start a poll like this:When was your current Baan version implemented at your site? 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 1994 1993 1992 1991 1990 before 1990

patvdv
1st August 2003, 11:58
No, because it will still require people to fill out the software version. And all people can do in a poll is make a tick at one or more options.

For this kind of information you would need a survey.

OmeLuuk
1st August 2003, 12:04
I agree, version information would be handy... but for the sake of POLL limitation, the age of an installation would be nice to know too. A survey is not an option, i presume...