Hi,
I had couple of questions regarding BCBE.
1. Is BCBE still supported by Baan?
2. Advantages of Openworld over BCBE?
3. Is BCBE available on Baan V? Or am I forced to use Openworld?
Thanks.

As far as I know:

- BCBE is not supported anymore by Baan. BCBE is replaced by OpenWorld.
- BCBE was available for Baan Vb (Grieg). For later Baan V versions it is not available anymore.

Advantages BOW:
- more stable
- more flexible
- support for different transport mechanisms (TCP/IP, MQSeries, MSMQ)
- better use of resources (licenses)

Disadvantages BOW:
- price
- BOI development only by trained / authorized partners of Baan

Youp

Hi,

I accidently happened to read your thread.

For your information some additional info:

1. I have successfully used BCBE/BCK for multiple projects in and outside NL for a number of times already using Baan IV and BaanERPb/c (Baan V). Among others, I managed to fully automate multiple (nested/multizoom) Finance-sessions this way, so that the Baan Business Logic is accessible form a 3rd party application using VB(.NET) or Java. By this time, I can honestly say that ANY session in Baan can be automated this way.

2. As to the stability of BCBE, I found that it's stability mainly relates to the quality of BOI's and (to less extent) the associated Application Function Servers developed and not the framework itself. As I have been able to FULLY control almost every BOI's quality myself by using the BOI Builder followed by modifying the 3GL-script created , this always proved solveable. Multiple customers are currently using solutions in their production environments as a result of this successfully.

3. As to BCBE for BaanERP (Baan V), please be informed that I have managed to make the BCBE-framework available to BaanERP 5.0c (Corelli) without any problem as well.

4. Until now, with each respective released Service Pack or Porting Set, BCBE continues to be supported by Baan. Furthermore, even some Baan-own interfaces have been realized using BCBE, rather than OW. As such, I currently don't expect BCBE to disappear in any of the current Baan-versions.

5. Although OW can be marked as more complete (but be honest, who really uses or needs MSMQ, MQSeries or even XML-MessageExchange for that matter !??), it certainly is not better or more stable than BCBE in my eyes. Due to the higher complexity, I found that the chance of unexpected/unexplainable errors occurring in the OW-framework is even higher than that of BCBE. Finally, to comment some more on Youp's arguments, although licence-management using BCBE is not natively built-in, it is quite easy to realize a ConnectionManager which implements ConnectionPooling using BCBE-components in the Microsoft .NET framework using (for example) .NET's Remoting and Windows Service possibilities.

6. Best advantage of using the BCK/BCBE platform as opposed to OW is it's price...... It's 100% for free ! (As a reference, please compare this to OW. Last price I heard for an OW Adapter licence was in the range of 20-25000 USD, and a multiple of that for the OW Studio (the OW-development environment), which is perfectly alright for large Baan-customers but clearly beyond reach for the smaller ones !!!)

Regards,

Maarten

BCK is free only if you can get from them. I tried many times to get it from BAAN UK see below


http://www.baanboard.com/baanboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1439&highlight=bck