ccbaan
17th June 2003, 10:50
We 're planning to move our environment from ORA7 to ORA9i I'm interested to know in which way we can use the TABLESPACE LOCALLY MANAGEMENT feature with the ora_storage file.
I'll appreciate a lot for any comments that you could give us about the ORA9i env.
Thanks in advance
Riccardo:confused: :confused:

Martin
17th June 2003, 11:40
Hi Ricardo,

the feature of LOCAL MANAGED is a TABLESPACE option.
So, when you create the tablespace you could set this option.
So this option would not specified in the ora_storage.
Please note thats a lot of work, because yout had to spefcify for all Baantables, which extent option would be specified. (small, medium or large).
So you must create local tablespaces with small extent clause, with medium and with large extent clause and for each baan-table assign in the ora_storage, in wich tablespace this tbale would created.

have a lot of fun.
Martin

btw.
could it be, that your are working some years ago in swiss (Bern) ?

ccbaan
17th June 2003, 13:14
Ciao Martin,
may be I was not so clear in my previous post.
I know that this is a TBS option but my question is: since if you use the TBS option you don't need to specify the storage clause for each table/index how can I mangae the storage parameter in ora_storage file that, anyway, must be exists ? I think, but I would like to have a confirm, that it will use the value for INITIAL extent specified in ora_storage file but by pass the value specified for NEXT using the LOCAL MANAGED option for TBS.
I hope you can answer me but, in any case, thanks a lot for your time waste for it.
Best regards
P.S: Unfortunately I 've never been in Bern.

:)

Martin
17th June 2003, 13:40
Hi Ricardo,

ok, when you will use local managed tbs,
you had two options, uniform allocations or computed allocation by oracle server.
So it is not recommanded to set a storage clause in ora_storage (because the storage clause come from the TBS, and always from the TBS !)).
As i said in my last post, you had to assign all Baan-Tables to local managed tablespaces depending on the size of the tables, this must be done in the ora_storage.

Martin

ccbaan
17th June 2003, 13:50
Ciao Martin,
since I don't know ORA9 deeply can you explain me what do you mean with compute or uniform allocation ?
If I well understood your suggestion I could also leave the ora_storage file blank or in any case without the default lines: ?

#---------- Default values
*:*:T:group:0214:5:PCTFREE 5 TABLESPACE DEFTBSDATA INITRANS 3 STORAGE (INITIAL 40 K NEXT 10 K PCTINCREASE 5)
*:*:I:group:0214:5:PCTFREE 5 TABLESPACE DEFTBSIDX INITRANS
3 STORAGE (INITIAL 40 K NEXT 10 K PCTINCREASE 5)
Thank you and best regards.
Riccardo

Dikkie Dik
17th June 2003, 15:00
Ricardo,

When using LMTS you don't have to specify the following parameters:
- INITIAL
- NEXT
- PCTINCREASE
- etc
So you can leave the ora_storage to:

#---------- Default values
*:*:T:group:0214:5:TABLESPACE DEFTBSDATA
*:*:I:group:0214:5:TABLESPACE DEFTBSIDX

The other things Martin is pointing you is the usage of the extents and fragmentation that can occur when creating the LMTS with a small segment size.

Hope this helps,
Dick