Hallo everybody,
Problem is as follow:
We buy secondhand machine as a customized item and need to take it to pieces. How to make it in Baan? Estimated material is 1 part, result of "production” is a list of parts. We need to calculate labor put into disassembling too.
Any idea will be appreciated!

Best regards
Anna

Hi Anna,

Insert a rework order for the customized item.
1)Insert one or many operations in production planning,
2) Put all items that is taken of the machine and that is going to be put in a warehouse as a negative issue in estimated material, 3) Issue the material,
4) Normal hours accounting against the operation you inserted,
5) Complete operations and order,
6) Close the order

Sturla

Hi Sturla

I'm not familiar with rework orders, so I have additional questions.
I understand minus estimated materials and reporting operations.
But what will happen with customized item? Is it still on hand on PSC? Rework Order is described in help as ".....show the finished product as a component...." Do you know what it means?

Best regards
Anna

".....show the finished product as a component...." means that the finished product itself (in your case - the customized item) is also in the material list of the production order.
Issuing the manufactured item to "itself" is the essense of rewok.
So practically what will happen in terms of material flow is as follows:
Issue to the order:
- The customized item. (due to the nature of rework)
Receipts from the order:
- The items with negative qty
- The cusomized item which you are producing - since in your case it is disassembly, you need to somehow discard of that quantity.
Some suggestions for that:
* Use a logical warehouse in the production order, one that is logistically not nettable and cab be disregarded financially (by neutralizing financial transactions to it). You need to decide how to "empty" that warehouse from time to time.
* Reject the finished quantity at the end of the disassembly process - but be careful, I'm not sure about all the implications (logistic and financial)

Hi,

Baanana has answered your question regarding the rework functionallity.
To get a rework order, there is a field at the production order (form 2 or 3) that has to be set to yes.

Sturla

Hi

Thanks Sturla and Baanana.
I Think this is good idea to make rework production order for 1 psc of customized item, but during completion make order completed wit delivered = 0.

I'm also confusing with parts received from customized items during disassembling. Because of they value I have to store them on project as customized items. There is a decision to use these items in production first (instead of standard new items). But I have no idea how to take into consideration SIC (tdinv3201 - Planned Inventory Orders). Is it possible to make SIC for customized items (they were on project on specified warehouse, item codes are equal to standard items codes)?
Another idea is to found method to store all these items as standard in different warehouses with different cost prices. But I'm not sure is it possible.
Any ideas?

Best regards
Anna

Anna,

If you want to make customized items out of the parts you receive from the disassembly, these parts are going to be stocked as project items.
If you want to use these parts as standard parts or as customized parts in another project, it's possible to transfer the items by using a PCS Warehous order (use the functionallity project to warehouse or project to project).
There is no functionallity in Baan IV that makes it possible to run a job (like PRP, INV, MRP) to look up project inventory without allocations and get advices to use them in other projects or as standard items (this is, as far as I know, possible if you use the "big" project module and A&D extention).
All transfer of customized items have to be done manually.
It's maybe better to transfer these items to a warehouse (nettable) as standard items, because it makes it easier to have control and reuse these items if there is a demand (MRP will see them).

Sturla
sfa@baanaid.com

Hallo

I try to find the best solution for these "old" items.
One of the solution is to make them standard with standard item code + e.g. "o" (that means old), store them in a separate warehouse and enter as alternative items for the same "new" item. But this solution is not the best. "Old" items can not be sold to the customer. How to separate that demand for production can order can respect alternative items, but demand for sales order can not?

Best regards
Anna