Dear BaaNers,

I've encounter some weird problems, that is the delivered qty > orderer qty for production order(pdo) subcontracting. But when i checked the purchase order(po), the approved qty is same with ordered qty.

What is the procedure for receiving pdo subcontracting? so that i can check whether baan validate the delivered qty so it cannot bigger than ordered qty.

Hi,
It would be helpfull if you describe your subcontracting process.. What is being subcontracted?

sk

before generating subcontracting order, routing process and subcontracting rate must be made for a certain item(manufactured item type in subcontracting item group) and supplier. After that i generate subcontracting order so that baan create pdo and po. after that i release the pdo, print po, and waiting for receipt.

Hi:
Even I did this simulation and it allows for quantity to complete which is more than the planned output and sub-contract receipt (of PO). It looks a bug to me.

Hi,
so what session did you run to increase the pdo subcontracting delivered qty? or what step did you run to receipt pdo subcontracting. i want to test it, and if its really can greater than ordered qty, i will add validation into that session.

Thx

It is possible in Baan4 to receive more than the ordered quantity when you do a Purchase Receipt. Subcontracting order is nothing but a purchase order with a subcontracting item. So you would have to place some sort of a trigger on the pur045 table to deny the excess or to allow a pre-defined percentage above the ordered quantity....

sk

i already add validation when receving po and also when report production order complete. but what if the case is like this......
- Due to deadline in closing pdo, user run session report production order complete with delivered quantity = ordered quantity when receipt po is still 0. So the delivered quantity in pdo is same with its ordered quantity
- The ordered item is come and user make receipt then inbound, so that delivered qty in po is same with ordered qty(assume that the item is not inspection)
- After inbound, how about delivered qty in pdo? is it became 2 x ordered qty or not?

Once a production order is reported complete, it doesnt allow any further production receipts.

sk

Hi:
When you are validating the receiving quantity for the subcontracted production order operation, instead of validating it against purchase order quantity (corresponding PO), validate it against purchase order receipt quantity.
This should solve your problems.

i already add validation when receving po and also when report production order complete. but what if the case is like this......
- Due to deadline in closing pdo, user run session report production order complete with delivered quantity = ordered quantity when receipt po is still 0. So the delivered quantity in pdo is same with its ordered quantity
- The ordered item is come and user make receipt then inbound, so that delivered qty in po is same with ordered qty(assume that the item is not inspection)
- After inbound, how about delivered qty in pdo? is it became 2 x ordered qty or not?

How do you do validation ??

I'm dealing with the same problem, ist here a way to receipt negative quantity on subcontracting purchase order in Baan IV, since system does not allow adding lines with subcontracting items.

@sukesh
run report pdo complete doesn't mean that those pdo status changed into complete, i only change field quantity to deliver, so delivered quantity increase.

@csjoshi
yes i added validation when user change qty to deliver with received pdo qty and with all approved receipt qty for subcont po. So with this i assume there will be no more qty delivered > qty ordered

@justone
i add validation on the event when value in field qty to deliver change, check it if inputted qty to deliver is > than order qty and if qty to deliver is > than summary of all approved po qty for that pdo, since 1 pdo can have 1 or more po

Is it possible at all on Baan IV ??

@wwalchan_risti: What version of Baan are you running ?? (ban IV, v7.6 in your signature is unknown to me)

@justone
its possible to add script to an event, i'm using BaaN B40c.76